4.0 out of 5 stars. The pre-drilled & tapped receivers did not occur until October 1950, in the 31780 serial number range. Winchester ~ Model 43 ~ .218 BEE Description: The Winchester Model 43 is a great platform for a varmint rifle. Is a special with high gloss & checkering, did not see any others listed, is an early gun prior to most changes in 1950. Thanks in advance. I would be interested in reading this article where can I find it, I have a model 43 .22 hornet with a high serial number I am also searching for a clip, boyce454 said (66*) Im assuming its first year production but sometimes first year production could have started in December. With that in mind, I chose Noslers 35-grain Ballistic Tip Lead Free (later swapped for Hornadys 35-grain V-MAX, which Ill get into momentarily) on the light end, Speers 40-grain Varmint SP and Sierras 45-grain Varminter SP as ideals, and Hornadys 50-grain SPSX (Soft-Point, Super eXplosive) at the heavy end. Is this a desirable/sought after rifle? Production of the Model 43 began on May 19th, 1948. Thanks so much for the response Ill post pics tomorrow. Assuming that it is in the 61,000 serial range, it was a late production rifle, and Yes, it was factory drilled & tapped for mounting a scope. There are several on ebay at the moment though. According to this thread, it could have come from the factory with scope mounting capability. with nice wood all matching. In general, the Model 43 is capable of very fine accuracy with the 22 Hornet cartridge, but they can be picky about the specific ammo to shoot in them for best accuracy. If yours are correct would you be interested in selling one? Does anyone know where I can find one? Your Model 43 rifle was manufactured in November of 1949. .218 Bee Very good condition, comes with one mag. Its a great shooter in any case. Manufactured from 1948 to 1953, the Model 43 was chambered for the 25-20 Win, 32-20 Win, 218 Bee, and 22 Hornet cartridges. These rifles were equipped with open sporting rear or Lyman 57A micrometer receiver sights, the test rifle included a dovetailed front bead of fiber-optic, obviously not factory original. Something went wrong. Is it a Standard or a Special Model 43 rifle? WACA 6571L, Historian & Board of Director Member. Click here for more information. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. My goal is to replace the few missing hardware pieces and eventually do a little plinking. Save winchester model 43 218 bee to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. WINCHESTER MODEL 70 HOOD PRE 64 30-06 308 375 SPRING STEEL WINCHESTER HOOD, Winchester 92 94 43 1873 Rear Sight & Elevator- Model 94 Lever Action- 21168B, Winchester Model 43 22 Caliber Hornet Bolt Handle, Winchester Model 43 22 Hornet Magazine Catch, Winchester Model 43 Caliber 22 Hornet Rifle Safety Lever, Winchester Model 43 Caliber 22 Hornet Extractor Set, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 SAFETY PREOWNED GOOD USABLE CONDITION, Winchester model 43, .22 Hornet Rifle, Extractor, #1743, W-714, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 - "RIGHT" EXTRACTOR. Hey Bert, Thanks so much, its not tapped like I said 98% ish. Bert, you now have me highly intrigued and I would consider it a privilege if you could provide similar info here.? The jewel among bolt-action Bees, and one that will hold its own with the Model 70 in accuracy, is the dainty little Sako L46. I would be interested in reading this article where can I find it, I have a model 43 .22 hornet with a high serial number I am also searching for a clip. The S/N on your Model 43 tells us that it was manufactured August 11th, 1951. There was some question about the accuracy of the .218 Bee as compared to the .222,[citation needed] but that was likely due to the difference of inherent accuracy between the bolt-actions rifles commonly chambered for the .222 and the lever-actions commonly chambered for the .218 Bee. Not drilled and tapped for scope blocks except for a few late rifles. Triple K Winchester Model 43 218 Bee Magazine 5 Shot Max, Winchester Model 43 - Right Hand Extractor w/Spring- 218 Bee, 32WCF, 25-20 - New, Triple K Magazine Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5RD #693M, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 FIRING PIN PREOWNED GOOD USABLE CONDITION. Ill look more closely and take some photos next time Im home. and .32-20 Win. Brand New 5 product ratings $97.00 sladestreettactical (31,017) 98.4% Buy It Now +$3.50 shipping Sponsored Winchester Model 43 Rifle. Seriously, what is more fun than hunting varmints with classic rifles, chambered in classic cartridges? Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. Its serial number is 23XX5A and is untapped with open sights. The cartridge was originally chambered in the Winchester Model 65 lever-action rifles, which may have ultimately led to its lack of popularity. The early production Model 43 rifles were made with a straight (90-degree) bolt handle. I bought it for a few hundred bucks assuming it had been modified and therefore no collector value. Winchester Model 43 .218 Bee Bolt Action Varmint Hunting Rifle With Leupold Scope and Sling. Winchester did not begin drilling & tapping them for mounting a scoped until October of 1950. Winchester Model 43 .22 Hornet 4 RD Round Blued Steel Magazine Triple K 632M Hover to zoom Shop with confidence eBay Money Back Guarantee Get the item you ordered or get your money back. In addition to the Bee, it was available in .25-20, .32-20, and .22 Hornet. Seller information ( 99.5% positive feedback Save seller Contact seller Visit store See other items Magazine Mag for Winchester Model 43 218 Bee 5 Rd Blued Clip Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? My grandfathers Model 43 .22 Hornet, s/n 32664A was passed down to me awhile back. On the October 1950 and later receivers, the front face has a 90-degree corner. The bolt has wear commensurate with repeated cycling . There is a post in the forum by Bert with pictures of correct Model 43 .218 magazine for reference. Guns Rifles Winchester Rifles Modern Bolt Auto Single Other Bolt Action WINCHESTER MODEL DELUXE CALIBER BEE | 764 | 202 | Lc | 109.3885ms, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 DELUXE CALIBER 218 BEE, WINCHESTER MODEL 43 DELUXE CALIBER 218 BEE. In your pictures of the two bolts.mine is the bottom one you have attached. Celebrating and maintaining Americas heritage. between 1949-1957. I would assume that bedding the action and barrel would be worthless in this case, but I might do it for fun and practice? Please confirm you want to mark all posts read, Model 1894 takedown rifle serial number date versus barrel s, For JWA--please evaluate my model 75 sporter. Rate of twist for each calibre 1885 model? RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. I am setting up my new Hot-Bluing system (something I have wanted to complete for 30 Years) and this should be project number 1!! That is an urban myth that has been spread around for several decades (people use it to try explaining why a rifle that has been D&T after the fact). Its in really nice shape its serial is 667 and as far as I know its standard model. Model/configuration - MODEL 43 bolt-action rifle, .218 Bee cal., with 24 inch bbl., and blue finish. cartridge. Of slight concern on the earlier production rifles likes yours, is the head space. I am in hunt for correct ,218 magazine. I have attached pictures showing the different contour of the two. Selling original Winchester type 1A rear sight elevator with, Selling original Winchester pre-64 model 70 steel butt-plate, Selling original Winchester 1873 carbine trap-door butt-plat, WTB: Winchester model 70 Marksman coarse checkered butt pla, Suggestions for replacing or restoring a worn-out 1873 carbi. The Model 43 is a well-made, 6-pound rifle that includes a three-round detachable box magazine, allowing the use of pointed bullets (though the confines of that magazine limits overall length). That being said, I dont want to restore the rifle if it does some crazy thing to the value! WE ARE CLASS 1 FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSED DEALER. Simply look at the front face of the rear receiver frame ring. THIS IS THE WAY WE HANDLE ALL OUR SALES, WE ALWAYS SHIP THE SAME DAY CUSTOMERS FUNDS ARRIVE AND ALWAYS E MAIL THE CUSTOMER THE UPS TRACK NUMBER WITH EXACT DELIVERY DATE TO HIS DEALER, WE ALWAYS INCLUDE A BILL OF SALE FOR THE CUSTOMER AND ALWAYS INCLUDE A COPY OF OUR FFL FOR THE ACCEPTING DEALERS RECORDS. Your Model 43 was manufactured in late August, 1950. LENGTH OF MAGAZINE - 2.33. I am currently dealing with a case of Covid-19, but would enjoy chatting with you after I get over this CRUD! 1 single shot in the Bee. I can already tell you that it will have a swept (bent) bolt, and no bevel on the receiver frame ring. The .218 Bee is a .22 caliber centerfire rifle cartridge designed for varmint hunting by Winchester in 1937. Grandpa put me behind the Winchester 43 and I swear I couldnt miss. The tendency with smaller varmint rounds like the Bee is to push maximum, ammunition left in a hot sun or truck cab inviting a stuck case or locked bolt. I like the caliber and its pretty little shooter. Id also like to get an idea of the value of the rifle; but Ill hold off on that question until Ive gone through it and can produce some quality photos and an evaluation of its condition. Just because of this thread, and the time you have taken to answer everyones questions, I became a Member of WACA today!! Any help would be great. Also when I did a search on it.i found something about a slanted bolt handle.something about later models started coming with predrilled and tapped and a slanted bolt.slant of the bolt was towards the back off the rifle. Algo sali mal. Im going to assume standard as its not checkered..it has been drilled and tapped it came with bases when I bought it, I plan to do some shooting todayall I can find is 35 grain ammo I am in British Columbia Canada and the town I live in is very limited to what I can get.im not exactly sure what headspace issues are.i myself dont reload so it will.be factory ammo that I will shoot.how do i know if i have headspace issues and if i do have them how is it corrected, Also when I did a search on it.i found something about a slanted bolt handle.something about later models started coming with predrilled and tapped and a slanted bolt.slant of the bolt was towards the back off the rifle, Could this mean anything different.replaced an original bolt.maybe a warranty replacement later run maybe a last batch kinda thing with the upgrades that came out in 1950, Drew said I have attached pictures of the two bolt types. Im intrigued by this thread. At that time, Winchester did not drill & tap the receiver for mounting a scope, which means that your grandfather had it altered aftermarket. I recently inherited some rifles from my grandfather. Guns International #: 101695745 Seller's Inventory #: 29225, When emailing or calling sellers direct, please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com, FEATURES - COMES WITH LEATHER SLING & WEAVER K10 60-B SCOPE, STORE HOURS 10AM - 6 PM MON - SAT EST. It appears that your local gun shop is carrying Hornady ammo. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 218 BEE RIFLE WITH SCOPE (1951 YEAR MODEL) Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 CALIBER 218 BEE. But the serial number is 6155A. WINCHESTER Model 43, DELUXE, 218 BEE, 24" Barrel, Fine Bore, DELUXE CHECKERED STOCK, GERMAN Style Quick Release Claw Scope Mounts, W/Bushnell Banner 4X Scope, Bright & Clear, Duplex Reticle. Revisa el carro de compras para ms detalles. Chambered for .218 Bee, .22 Hornet, .25-20 Win. Your Model 43 rifle was manufactured in July, 1950. First, I would like to disassemble the rifle and give it a thorough cleaning, inspection, and lubrication. Time-tested standbys include similar Hodgdon 110 and Winchester 296, Alliant Reloder 7, Accurate 2460 and Hodgdons temperature stable Extreme Series H-4198. The Model 43 is a very simplistic design, and does not require much disassembly to properly clean. Im intrigued by this thread. PLEASE CALL US AT (478-257-6655) Despite showing some early promise, the cartridge never really caught on, even though it was later chambered by Winchester in their new bolt-action Model 43 rifle and by Sako in their L-46 rifle. Im off to eBay for my daily check. Is it a standard or a Special rifle? If yes then Id contemplate a refurbished Weaver K4 to be period correct. - Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5 RDS Magazine Mag Mags Made in the USA! Thanks for help, [emailprotected] said Serial number 19257A was manufactured in February 1950. 2-Pack Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5 RDS Magazine Mag Mags Made in the USA! All receiver sights I know of use 2 screws. ECOM00050823. It was manufactured in 1952. Im going to assume standard as its not checkered..it has been drilled and tapped it came with bases when I bought it. If it has a smooth uncheckered stock, it is a Standard rifle. Thanks so much for the response Ill post pics tomorrow. First of all I gave you the wrong on the serial, Its been a few years since I took her out of the safe its actually 668sorry about that I dont want to mess with your data. NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CALL OUR OFFICE, WE ARE LOCATED IN WESTERN NEW YORK STATE. Bolt action rifle made from 1949 -1957 in both. The Winchester trademark is used with the permission and to the credit of Olin Corporation/Winchester Division. The .218 Bee was the first modern varmint cartridge designed expressly for a lever rifle Winchesters Model 65. If I switch to Winchester 45-gr SP ammo, my group immediately opens to nearly 2-inches @100 yards. Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. Its seen better days and as a boy I recall a Weaver 4x scope thats now missing. Lever-rifle tubular magazines requiring blunt, low ballistic coefficient (BC) bullets, and slow (1:16) rifling twist, never really allowed the cartridge to live up to its true potential. Manufactured from 1949 to 1957 with standard Winchester markings, hooded ramp front and elevation adjustable rear sights and receiver tapped for sight/scope mounting. Scarce deluxe model 43 in popular .218 Bee. Modern rifle options were introduced by Marlin and Browning as late as 1989 (also lever guns) and Ruger chambered their No. Thank You Bert for your input & Time, I do appreciate it. Thanks for help. All because for once in my life, luck was on my side and I happened to end-up with the ONE every collector is looking for! Does anybody know when it was manufactured and what it may be worth? Finish. Other than my GREAT GREAT Grandfathers Winchester 30/30 (and his original saddle scabbard stamped 1882) I have not owned another Winchester until today. I made a truck varmint gun out of it, thinking it had no value. It is really easy to identify a factory drilled & tapped Model 43 from one that was not. The .218 Bee like the ancient .22 Hornet remains curiously popular despite the availability of superior, mild-mannered .224-caliber bullets such as the .221 Remington Fireball and .222 Remington. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Some pictures of the rifle would be of benefit. Can you post (or send me) a picture showing the top of the receiver and the D&T holes? Winchester Model 43. Winchester Rifle Model 43 Magazine 218 BEE New Manufactured Pre-Owned $43.53 rils99 (12,829) 99.6% Buy It Now +$7.00 shipping Sponsored 2-Pack Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5 RDS Magazine Mag Mags Made in the USA! I believe that Numrich has diagrams/schematics for the Model 43, but I sincerely doubt that you will need them. Winchester did not begin drilling & tapping them for mounting a scoped until October of 1950. I guess you could say, if its not going to matter, I would like to make a custom shooter out of this.. Once I modify the stock with a slight palm-swell and taper the forearm, I do plan to checker both palm and forearm. When I was a small boy, my Grandpa shook me awake early one Saturday morning on a weekend I was staying with them. If you read the article that I wrote (in the Spring 2016 Collector magazine), it explains the Model 43 production history in better detail. New Hornady brass, vintage Lee Reloading Dies and CCI No. Winchester offers sporadic runs of factory ammunition and Quality Cartridge offers handloading hulls. 218 Bee "Extreme" Custom Ammo. Fitted with 24" round barrel and front sight ramp forged integrally with barrel. Your rifle should have a swept bolt. This hinges on the fact that, again like the Hornet, the Bee is just flat-out fun to shoot, producing negligible recoil and tolerable muzzle report. SERIAL NUMBER 5241XA FACTORY DRILLED AND TAPPED FOR SCOPE. When it comes to hunting, there is NOTHING that tops. Receiver behind bolt is square cut not angled, has the swept bolt, & serial # is 20078A. Forum. Headspace issues will typically be manifested by deformed empty cases, or a protruding or deformed primer. Looking for what information I can find and possibly find other vintage scope options I may have and possibly other front hoods that may have been used that will fit the 43. In terms of relative performance, the .218 Bee falls between the smaller .22 Hornet, and the larger .222 Remington and the more popular .223 Remington. Es posible que las cantidades y los montos de las ofertas de subasta no estn actualizados. Bert, if you follow NW Sportsman Magazine (It appears we live just across the water from one another in Wa.) Manufacturer/Trademark - Winchester. The cartridge was originally chambered in the Winchester Model 65 lever-action rifles, which may have ultimately led to its lack of popularity. Ive already got a couple good varmint rifles, so Im not sure about this one. Winchester introduced the Model 43 bolt-action in 1949 as a sort of Winchester Model 70 Junior, the first rifle produced by the company following World War II. (66*) Im assuming its first year production but sometimes first year production could have started in December. 218 BEE Caliber 5 Rds. The Winchester trademark is used with the permission and to the credit of Olin Corporation/Winchester Division. GI#: 102260137. The Model 43 has a very simplistic action, and it is very easy to disassemble to clean. So Inherited a nice Model 43 in 218 Bee along with others but this one has peeked my interest more than others, so a few notes after reading this. I can tell you when your Model 43 was manufactured if you provide the serial number. Trigger Pull: 3 3/4lbs, No Travel. Second, once Ive gone through it and can be certain of the condition, I need to figure out what I want to do with it. The bullet is based on the ancient .25-20 Winchester case and was introduced by Winchester in 1938 as a follow-up to their .22 Hornet success. Hopefully, everything else about it is unscathed. I have found a schematic and wonder if there is any info available for dis and reassembly on line (or elsewhere)? Im hoping that someone can help me with a few things. Mac, I plan to keep them together with the rifle at the moment. Only the 32-20 is less common (at just (61) verified thus far). $47.50. Very fine. I recently found a replacement hood sight and put it back on the rifle. The Model 43 was a nice little rifle and often described as the poor man's Model 70, but those I owned in .22 Hornet and .218 Bee years ago were nowhere near as accurate as my Winchester models 54 and 70 in .22 Hornet. WINCHESTER 43, .218 BEE, 4 RD: ORIGIN - USA. -Premium quality mag made in the USA. The Model 43 was only in production from May 1948 through December 1953. Winchester 43 .218 Bee (W6272) Price: $1,895.00 Item Number: W6272 Previously sold Winchester 43 .218 Bee caliber rifle. Opens in a new window or tab. The rifle was also chambered in .22 Hornet, .25-20 and .32-20 Winchester. UPC. Model-43-Special-47841A-218-BEE.jpg (40 KB) WACA 6571L, Historian & Board of Director Member Timothy Hamilton Lititz, PA New Member WACA Member Forum Posts: 1 Member Since: March 19, 2022 Offline 4 March 19, 2022 - 3:50 am Bert I have a number of Model 43 218's and one 25 20. The DOM was 6/23/148. Thanks so much for allowing us to glean experience from your in-depth knowledge and wisdom.. with nice wood all matching. Deluxe checkered stock with fancy figured walnut stock and Winchester pistol grip cap. Serial number 19257A was manufactured in February 1950. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 DELUXE CALIBER 218 BEE For Sale from: MAX T FRANCE | Positive feedback: 100% View | Verified Seller | 1372 Completed Sales View Sellers Items SOLD - $1,295.00 Shipping: $50.00 (or Arrange local transfer) Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days Description: WINCHESTER MODEL 43 DELUXE CALIBER 218 BEE. Though I did stumble across the thread on a Google search, I did reference you Bert as the referring Member. Resultados que coinciden con menos palabras, Mercedes C218 Clase CLS 2014 rojo met. The latter is likely one of the strongest actions offered for this cartridge; one that would allow pursuing the Bees true potential. It offers 30 percent more case capacity and a more than 100 feet per second (fps) improvement in velocity, despite lower established operating pressures. Regardless, I am super excited about this purchase. Hornady has become the most reliable source for Bee brass, offered in both loaded ammunition and as a component. It was manufactured in September 1953. If you can, please send clear detailed pictures of the rifle to me at [emailprotected], NOTE: first posts are subject to administrator approval before being displayed, WinchesterCollector.org interchangeable in either grade. Sean said I will assume that you missed a digit in the serial number with the correct number, I can pin down the month & year it was manufactured. It came off of a ladys fathers boat. close. I havent been here long so not sure if you guys give approx values but I would estimate to be in VG 98% condition. BORE EXCELLENT ORIGINAL FACTORY FINISH OF WOOD AND METAL PARTS. 3-Pack Winchester Model 43 218 BEE 5 RDS Magazine Mag Mags Made in the USA! My typo. it has been drilled for a Weaver N2 side mount & has a C4 scope mounted to it. WEIGHT - 6 LBS. It was the first gun I shot as a boy and probably has more sentimental value as a family heirloom to me than monetary. I dont mind emailing them if you have an email address, You can send the pictures to me at [emailprotected]. But if not I would go with newer optics like a Leupold 39, Im not the boy who first shot this rifle 40+ years ago. I just inspected my empty cases..the brass all look finebut on a unfired round the primer feels kinda sunk into the brasson the fired ones somenot all the primers feel slightly.and i mean slightly outta the primer pocket. Inv#0522143. The .218 Bee cartridge was designed by Winchester for use in their Model 65 lever-action rifles. It has been locked up in his gun safe for decades and appears to be in extremely nice condition. The barrel is in great condition overall and retains its factory finish. The barrel is in great condition overall and retains its factory finish. From what I have read here, I dont think there will be anything unique about this particular rifle? Its in really nice shape its serial is 667 and as far as I know its standard model. Looking forward to getting it home and trying it out, Bert I saw your email address and am sending you pics. WINCHESTER MODEL 43 CALIBER 218 BEE WITH WEAVER SCOPE 4 POWER. standard and deluxe grade. STORE HOURS 10AM - 6 PM MON - SAT EST. Serial number- 52550A.

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