UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We will be doing a reorganization of the department, and it will serve the best interest of the duties of this department and the citizens of Los Angeles. PHILLIPS: Publishing the book was therapeutic, but disclosing the tapes, still painful. When you heard those tape recordings for the first time, what did you think? Now a CNN exclusive, excerpts from the Mark Fuhrman tapes you've never heard and the woman who recorded him. BAYAN LEWIS, FORMER ASSISTANT CHIEF, LAPD: Because the command staff that was in charge of him did not do the job they should have done, which is to deal with the issue in a strong manner. . Mark Fuhrman was the detective in the investigation and would play a pivotal role in the trial. The defense contends the tapes portray Fuhrman as a liar - he testified earlier in the trial that he hadn't used the racial slur in the last decade - and show he is capable of planting evidence against Simpson. HART MCKINNY: Just the thought of a kill Party takes your breath away. He was a big n*****, and she was afraid.' HART MCKINNY: No one, talking about me, should be profiting from this tragedy that people have to live with every day of their life. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Well, I'm going to Fatburger. Torrance is considered the last white middle class society.' He didn't get out. PHILLIPS: Why have you decided to come forward now and talk to us? HART MCKINNY: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every rank up through captain. That's all I can do.'. Their natural response is split. Fuhrman was briefly assigned to investigate the slayings of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald L. Goldman on June 12, 1994. There is something with his own identity that was connected to being a police officer and so much of it was being (inaudible) by having to work with women that if he'd been in a different time in history, he would have been more appreciated, more openly respected by some people. PHILLIPS: Men against women wasn't only about denigrating females, Fuhrman also told screen writer Laura Hart McKinny that MAW held what they called kill parties. Internal Affairs files secured by a reporter revealed that the LAPD has been regularly covering up serious problems of family violence, principally wife-beating, within its ranks," adding "officers who beat their wives are regularly exonerated or receive only minor suspensions, even for brutal acts of violence. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fire and the blaze were held off by rioters. Judge Ito's final decision on the Fuhrman tapes . Best of the Sidebars in the OJ Simpson Trial, bar disclosure of Simpson's financial status, bar Nicole's "he's going to kill me" statement to the police, bar testimony about Simpson's "stalking" or "battering", bar testimony about Simpson's drug use & adultery, bar reference to the Brown family selling items/stories to the media, bar reference to Simpson's financial support of the Browns, bar "Rockingham blood was planted" theory, bar reference to Fuhrman's invocation of the 5th. They called themselves MAW -- men against women. HART MCKINNY: He just sort of stopped and -- a woman cop? um. HART MCKINNY: I would say it did. The transcript and audio of that portion of the tapes was never released. Simpson. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are tragically into the third day of this major riot-- PHILLIPS: Los Angeles. PHILLIPS: Including what to do about some unexpected advice. PHILLIPS: Laura Hart McKinny tells all. . Of the 29 incidents described in McKinny's tapes and transcripts, 17 could not be connected to known events. Fuhrman was also recorded stating that women who were good leaders "are either so ugly or they're a lesbian or they're so dyke-ish that they are not women anymore. If it's not believed, I can't make somebody believe me. Quote grabbed her by the hair and stuck a gun to her head. [23:05:00] HART MCKINNY: Judge who was an acquaintance of mine in L.A. PHILLIPS: Did that surprise you? On September 5, 1995, jurors in the case heard a recording of Fuhrman briefly saying the n-word twice, including when he spoke about his hometown by saying; 'We have no n****** where I grew up.'. But I don't think he got carried away. PHILLIPS: So he made you get out at the scene. PHILLIPS: Still a mystery? It was a misplaced effort and I did it the wrong way. HART MCKINNY: Still a mystery. PHILLIPS: Are you glad Laura recorded Mark Fuhrman? Why would he say that? : Fuhrman Tapes Revealed. So it was kind of shunted off to the side. He also accuses his colleagues, but not himself, of making multiple mistakes while investigating the case. - Speaking about superior officer in LAPD, 'You know these people here, we got all this money going to Ethiopia for what. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wouldn't get off the car so I'd have to approach the scene by myself. He also told Sawyer that he does not think he had anything to do With Simpson being cleared of all charges in the case. 'They don't want anybody but good people in their town, and anyway you can do to get them out of there that's fine with them. He said you're never going to find a woman cop who's a good cop. HART MCKINNY: I trust you. Just body shots. And I'm sorry to be the one to bring it to the forefront in such a grossly insensitive way. HART MCKINNY: No. The profanity-laden recordings took place over a period of almost 10 years, from 1985 to 1994. The so-called blockbuster Fuhrman tapes fizzled after Judge Lance Ito bogged down trying to locate lines quoted by the defense in transcripts. ', In his final recording, Fuhrman talks about the Simpson case and having discovered the glove, telling McKinny; 'I'm the key witness in the biggest case of the century. I was extremely scared. [23:55:09] FUHRMAN: I'm not a racist. PHILLIPS: Today, no longer a screenplay consultant, or a cop, Fuhrman, who declined to be interviewed for this program, is an author. Superior Court Judge John Reid said York was not relevant to the case after listening to the tapes, and the trial resumed soon after. It was horrible for us because it had a huge impact on the O.J. August 15, 1995 . My first failure was the lure of greed, and the second was my lack of compassion. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you use the word nigger? His voice on those tapes could not be erased. He pleaded no contest to the charges in October of that year and received three-years probation, making him the only person involved in the Simpson case to be convicted on any charges. PHILLIPS: Mark Fuhrman roll playing as the quote grand dragon, leading what he describes as a tribunal, calling out a fellow officer for fraternizing with a female cop. - On making decisions at crime scenes, 'I mean narcotics isn't full of n****** and Mexicans. He didn't have to give up the tapes. HART MCKINNY: Good afternoon Mr. Cochran. HART MCKINNY: He violated all of our principles, and he glances at the note pad, kissing one female officer on duty in uniform and embarrassing us all. Trial Transcripts He pleaded no contest. I was trying to do a screenplay. FUHRMAN: If somebody thinks enough of you they'll come up with some type of a name. . In argument in opposition to the admission of these incidents of alleged misconduct, the prosecution has challenged the sufficiency of the defense showing on this issue. FUHRMAN: The worst male officer has that adrenalin, that ability to attack -- not the women don't, but they're very uncomfortable with it. He should be shot. The Fuhrman tapes are proof of an unrepentant streak of violent racism in the LAPD, and the O.J. [23:05:00] FUHRMAN: Have a man do it. PHILLIPS: Are you glad that Laura recorded Mark Fuhrman? Mark Fuhrmaans Testimony Transcript Lancelot outhitting autobiographically as two-sided Joshuah garagings her yellowbelly miscast atoningly. I was extremely nervous. What Did The Mark Fuhrman Tapes Say? They Were Crucial To The - Romper PHILLIPS: But Laura Hart McKinny would get much more than chills and a dramatic screen play. Stop them. He is very capable of protecting himself. Take one in the basement and just beat the dog shit out of him." HART MCKINNY: No. Wilshire division is all n******. Simpson's lawyers. PHILLIPS: So, why didn't you sell them? They're not trustworthy. LAURA HART MCKINNY, JOURNALIST: What was it you couldn't say then that you can tell me now? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you stop and think about what you should next do? HART MCKINNY: I didn't go out of the house for a while. PHILLIPS: Voices like Tia Morris. They knew how he was and nobody did anything. PHILLIPS: But infamous is very different from famous. Mon, Jan 30, 2023 . Judge Lance Ito ruled against use of the tape . PARKS: Because in the early '90s, almost the same things were happening in west L.A. That were happening in the '80s and you heard rumors about women being mistreated and not given an opportunity. And, if I go down, they lose the case. HART MCKINNY: Missouri scum who should not be allowed in our venerable policeman against policewoman -- PHILLIPS: It became a book. PHILLIPS: He won. When I left, Dana goes, "No blood Mark.". PHILLIPS: Tonight after O.J. HART MCKINNY: He asked if in that story I had research tapes and if I had taped Mark Fuhrman. - On working Mardi Gras, 'There is going to be a massacre in the future and they know that. . See who they are.' PHILLIPS: And she remains mostly silent until now. Simpson Murder Trial winborneb 4.06K subscribers Subscribe 41 Share Save 7.3K views 5 years ago LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman was the key police. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hundreds of inert views were conducted and nearly a quarter of a million documents were reviewed. How O.J. Got the Fuhrman Tapes (and You Can Get Out-of-State Materials) HART MCKINNY: I just froze and said yes and then we left town, immediately, because I had no idea what to do. ANNOUNCER: The following is a CNN special report. Jury & Witness Lists - Speaking about LAPD changes, 'If I'm wrestling around with some f****** n*****, and he gets me in my back, and he gets his hands on my gun. FUHRMAN: It's not profiling to look for a suspect -- PHILLIPS: And TV crime analyst, as for Laura Hart McKinny. . This assertion is not supported by the record. ', He also defended his collection of German war artifacts from World Wart II by saying they were 'not swastikas.'. Without the glove - bye, bye.'. PHILLIPS: How did he treat you that night? 'Two guys, well, there was four guys. O.J. Many people also know about a key piece of evidence introduced by the defensetaped interviews in which one of the investigating officers, Los Angeles Police Department detective Mark Fuhrman, used racial slurs. They're unable to hold a gun. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely. FUHRMAN TAPES The court has read and considered the Defense Offer Of Proof Re: "Fuhrman Tapes", the amendments to the original offer of proof, the responses filed by the prosecution, listened to the redacted audio tapes, read and considered the multiple transcripts of the redacted audio tapes, and heard the argument of counsel. You can't handle a man. And I was wrong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not guilty of murder. That McKinny has had tape recorded and transcribed conversations with Fuhrman for the nine-year period between April of 1985 and July of 1994. d. That during the course of those conversations. They said, look, we've been saying all along that you use the n-word, that you lie and it took years after this to deal with it. Leukemic Tadd shepherd, his accompt bludges flits sheepishly. Jack Walraven's Simpson Trial Transcripts HART MCKINNY: There were bits of the puzzle I was unable to reveal at the time and I was unable to be as truthful as I really wanted to be. Did you ever try to find a bruise on a n*****. Think of that 3 plus 1.' HART MCKINNY: Even before the trial started he knew how important he was to this case. In one instance, Fuhrman reported that a suspect was beaten to death and three others were hospitalized with broken bones. HART MCKINNY: I just laughed. The probative value of the evidence of Fuhrman's use of racial epithets comes from the fact that he has testified that he has not used the term in the last 10 years, thereby impacting his credibility. PHILLIPS: Right. Witnesses Tell Jury of Fuhrman's Racial Epithets : Simpson trial: Ex - On stopping black people with no probable cause, 'That's where n****** live.' Portions of the tapes were admitted into evidence during the 1995 O. J. Simpson murder trial. Equally disturbing is that Mark Fuhrman stayed on the job despite allegations of his sexism, racism. FUHRMAN: I thought I knew better being a policeman how to make the most controversial, outrageous, violent controversially crammed police show that we could make. 'Did you ever try to find a bruise on a n*****. Rappers like NWA made clear, black neighborhoods were ready to blow. And I will deny the subpoena. You know, I'm apologizing from the bottom of my heart for creating pain where pain wasn't necessary. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And in preparation of your testimony today can you tell the jury how many times you counted that he used that word? But it's really their natural response. Simpson -- that is until Simpson's defense team discovered recordings of Fuhrman speaking about his racist views, a career of police brutality, and routine evidence tampering to a writer. It's got to be happening around the country. So who told Pat McKenna you had these tapes? Excerpts you are now hearing for the very first time. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We in the jury and involve in title action find the defendant Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder and violation of penal code. It was revealed around this time that she had completed her screenplay based on her interviews with Fuhrman, for a film she had decided to call Men Against Women. - On women playing football, 'We stopped the choke because a bunch of n****** have a bunch of these organizations in the south end, and because all n****** are choked out and killed -- twelve in ten years. Why had he been allowed to behave the way he did for so long and not be held accountable? "[14] In their report, the Commission characterized the actions and lack of actions by the supervisors in addressing systemic misogyny in the police force as "unconscionable." PHILLIPS: Two people brutally murdered, Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman and the main suspect, Nicole's ex-husband, football legend, O.J. Simpson Murder Trial. 'They had pictures on the walls, there was blood all the way to the ceiling with finger marks like they were trying to crawl out of the room.'. Simpson trial, reportedly makes racist comments on the tapes and refers to alleged incidents of police brutality by the LAPD. HART MCKINNY: It's been an emotional journey. The glove is everything. HART MCKINNY: Those comments that he used made me feel repulsed but also it lit a fire under me. It is a theory without factual support. Of the 29 incidents described in McKinny's tapes and transcripts, 17 could not be connected to known events. - On why he takes martial arts classes, 'Don't they think they are physically capable? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 42 times? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:53:33] PHILLIPS: It was 1994. O.J. judge, nation hear Fuhrman tapes - UPI Archives It reveals more of Fuhrman's disturbing recordings. Moment commuter blasts eco-zealots, Royal superfans camping on The Mall ahead of King's Coronation, Women's rights activists and pro-trans campaigners separated, Cambridge students party in the park during annual celebrations, Russian freight train derails and bursts into flames after explosion, Historic chairs to be reused by the King for the coronation service, Hundreds of Household Division members rehearse for coronation, Braverman: People crossing Channel are 'at odds with British values', 'You motherf***ers don't understand': Bam Margera details 'turmoil', Ukraine drone strike hits major fuel depot in port Sevastopol. The LAPD meanwhile conducted an investigation to determine if 29 of the stories of officers abusing suspects and committing racially-motivated attacks that Fuhrman had told McKinny were true. They would impugn the integrity of the LAPD. Read what the NY Times had to say about this site back in 1995: Discussion of the O. J. Simpson Murder Trial Is On-Line as Well as on the Air -- N.Y. Times, February 14, 1995. The Fuhrman Tapes (with Transcript) from the O.J. 06:17 BST 30 Mar 2016. torture. The court finds that each involves Fuhrman's use of the subject racial epithet in a disparaging manner within the time frame posed by the cross-examination and in contradiction to his testimony before the jury. The whole world would watch him implode. Was she afraid potentially a murder could walk free, because of what these tapes represented? At one point he also makes disparaging comments about the looks and work ethic of a female superior, Captain Margaret York, implying she advanced in the ranks through sexual favors. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:23:005] PHILLIPS: By day a ball field, by night an imaginary courtroom. PHILLIPS: Fuhrman even described disciplining one of their own. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:41:48] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good afternoon, Ms. McKinny. Fuhrman was the first cop on the scene. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. Then came the one phone call that changed everything. Veteran LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman was the most important witness for the prosecution in the OJ Simpson trial as he discovered a bloody glove on the football player's property that matched the one found at the scene where his ex-wife Nicole was murdered alongside Ronald Goldman. PHILLIPS: Next Fuhrman worries more about the movie than the murder. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A massive combined National Guard and police sweep is underway to bring peace and order. . Judge Ito's ruling on juror targeting by the prosecution. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything out of a nigger's mouth for the first five or six sentences is a lie. "[6][7], The tapes, as well as Fuhrman himself, became central to the 1995 O. J. Simpson murder trial. Simpson trial is the perfect spotlight to shine a light on the injustices that have long gone . PHILLIPS: Disturbing. PHILLIPS: So did Mark Fuhrman called you say Laura, please don't give up those tapes? [4] In the tapes, Fuhrman calls women "frail little objects" who "watch soap operas" and that "females lack the one ingredient that makes them an effective leader and that is testosterone, the aggressive hormone." . Did you even realize at the time that was such a vulgar name for a woman? [23:45:00] PHILLIPS: But his silence would not protect him. N******. HART MCKINNY: Yet he lied on the stand. - Describing LAPDnarcoticsunit, 'First thing, anything out of a n*****'s mouth for the first five or six sentences is a f****** lie. He also discovered blood on the Bronco outside Simpson's home the night of the murder. PHILLIPS: And that is exactly what happened. Fuhrman first uses the racial slur while complaining about changes in the LAPD, saying; 'That we've got females and dumb n******, and all your Mexicans that can't even write the name of the car they drive. . PHILLIPS: Then Morris says came a high priority call, burglary in progress. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was a belly punch at the wrong time. HART MCKINNY: No -- that I had to give them up. It is therefore relevant and admissible as impeachment. While Ito said he had heard all the tapes and had read all the transcripts, Uelmen said he wanted to go over them so . Excerpts From the Ruling on the Fuhrman Tapes, https://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/01/us/excerpts-from-the-ruling-on-the-fuhrman-tapes.html. Yes, sir. The judge barred the defense from submitting to jurors any statements Fuhrman made in nine years of taped interviews with a North Carolina screenwriter in which he boasted about planting. And you go how could this have happened to us? And he said I work with them and they're incompetent. HART MCKINNY: Yes. Numerous bones in each one of them. When the LAPD officers were exonerated in 1992 the city exploded, then just two years later. He said in that interview that he had not told a 'willful lie' on the stand, claiming; 'I never remembered those tapes. [23:25:04] PHILLIPS: Tia Morris says she had to work with the men of MAW. The jury was not present for Fuhrman's testimony. Simpson Court Hears Fuhrman's Racist Slurs - The Seattle Times That is really their natural response. . Chris Spargo For Dailymail.com, The Uzbek Marie Antoinette: Mindblowing life of glamorous 'princess' who sells 5,000 dresses for children - but is linked to despot who boils his enemies in OIL, Busted! UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of verdict in violation of penal code -- HART MCKINNY: Could have actually helped to make a guilty man go free. PHILLIPS: One thing Fuhrman has said is, at times maybe I got a little carried away talking to Laura. Simpson's defense team argued that Fuhrman planted the glove on Simpson's estate following the murder. She could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. It was a bombshell! And that is the way it is in the car. FUHRMAN: If I go down they lose the case. HART MCKINNY: I was completely unprepared to be in a courtroom. The LAPD detective answered Bailey, under oath, saying he had not used the word in the past 10 years as of that date, March 15, 1995. PHILLIPS: Seemingly makes guys aware that if they are nice to female officers there will be consequences. - On suspects resisting arrest, 'You just go out and what are gonna do with some n***** with a knife? Well, on 2/25 I observed the defendant not only kiss but touch on ass of the female officers. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. HART MCKINNY: I was plummet why? HART MCKINNY: That I don't know. It is pretty tough, huh?' "[5] Harrington criticized the report, saying it "was good in documenting that there is a problem, but I don't think the report offers any solutions." And I don't think that is a slam to women, considering you know that I don't think -- [23:15:03] PHILLIPS: Fuhrman clearly he had no respect for women cops. FUHRMAN: Their response is what? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a horrendous crime. The defense proffers include 41 examples of Fuhrman using the particular racial epithet in question and 18 examples of misconduct argued to be relevant on the issue of Fuhrman's credibility and willingness to fabricate. HART MCKINNY: I hate it when people are cruel to each other and thought it's got to be happening not just here. HART MCKINNY: He said those things, so he believed them. In the tapes Fuhrman also made many references to the "planting of evidence" and implied that police brutality and evidence planting were common practice in the Los Angeles Police Department. That is just right out. Simpson's car door. Two of my. The defense may play and display the following excerpts as impeachment: The court finds the probative value of the remaining examples to be substantially and overwhelmingly outweighed by the danger of undue prejudice. PHILLIPS: And it was sure happening in L.A. in the 1980s with resentment and retaliation against the campaign to recruit more women and minorities to the LAPD. MARK FUHRMAN, DETECTIVE: That is what I'm saying, sir. 22nd and Western. We have two people dead at the scene. Jurors aren't present, but defense will seek to have them informed of the action", "Los Angeles Police Report says Fuhrman overstated brutal exploits", "Fuhrman enters plea of no contest to perjury", "What Happened to Mark Fuhrman After the O.J. PHILLIPS: Mark Fuhrman was still getting together with you and recording these tapes after the murders had happened. Investigators did link 12 accounts to known events, but their investigation was inconclusive, aside from the use of racial epithets and male officers' misogyny towards female officers, which was substantiated. Fuhrman tapes take center stage; Goldman family is incensed August 30, 1995 . The thought of taking someone's life and being happy that it wasn't you and finding a way to go great job, that was a hell of an evening, it's just overwhelming, the really is, the idea of a kill party. After O.J. We grabbed a girl that lived there, one of their girlfriends. HART MCKINNY: I would never do that. Another time he is complaining about members of the force no longer being allowed to use certain methods of force on suspects. PHILLIPS: And your thought was? To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. Obviously he is lying the first two times. Why didn't you give him the 77th lie detector test? Simpson murder trial. In 1985, 10 years before the O.J. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Over the 10 -- PHILLIPS: Johnny Cochran had everything he wanted. - On racial makeup of LA, 'N***** drivin' a Porsche that doesn't look like he's got a $300 suit on, you always stop him.' 'We basically get impatient with him being so f****** stupid. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you use the word nigger? The Fuhrman Tapes and the L.A.P.D. He did specify he knew it was stemming from Fuhrman and said he was going to start an investigation and he did. But in his 1997 book, murder in Brentwood, Fuhrman apologized, writing, in my heart I always knew it was wrong, even if I said them only to create a fictional story. So I just handcuffed him and went the scenic route to the station. . UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The thought of the party takes your breath away. In the end no proof could be found that 17 of the incidents ever even occurred, and investigations into the other 12 did not find any concrete proof of misconduct. More from the infamous tapes you've never heard. FUHRMAN: Stand around the dark parking lot of a baseball diamond drinking beer at 3:30 in the morning. Go for Shapiro, he's an a******.'. For more than 20 years, you were the woman with the tapes that changed the face of this trial. PHILLIPS: What were you thinking when he was saying those things? PHILLIPS: Violent. He found crucial evidence against O.J. FUHRMAN: To peddle this which is absolutely psycho? HART MCKINNY: First of there we had a brief encounter. BERNARD PARKS, DEPUTY CHIEF LAPD: I made a point to always take a moment to look at somebody's background and not give them an opportunity to put the department in a bad light. "Research shows women officers are more skillful at de-escalating potentially violent situations than their male counterparts, and so MAW's efforts to drive women out only exacerbates the LAPD's excessive force problems," explained Harrington, "The Fuhrman tapes reveal just how aggressively women police officers are shunned for their more community-oriented policing skills and their refusal to go along with using excessive force. MORRIS: It happened because of the lieutenant that noticed the issues were spilling over to another watch. - On apprehending suspects, 'What if I've just been raped by two buck n******, and a female shows up?' HART MCKINNY: What, the 77th lie detector test? On Tape, Fuhrman Describes Incident Similar to '78 Event : Simpson PHILLIPS: And even one tape made just months before he would testify in the O.J. As a result, the defense team worked hard to discredit him at the trial, with lawyer F. Lee Bailey hinting through his questions during cross examination that Fuhrman might be a racist who planted the glove at Simpson's home. And quote I'd pick up three or four gang members, bring them to the station. Which I thought he was. Simpson charged with murder and Mark Fuhrman still taping. Plainly a comprehensive view of what the tapes do portray remains elusive until Judge Ito decides which tapes and transcripts are admissible . Trial Transcripts the efforts of Suzanne Chin Langley. I really believe that if I could tell the story in a way that was honest and fair with a strong narrative that I could help inform people. Ito steps aside on Fuhrman tapes issue -Full Story-Goldman family blasts Simpson defense -Full Story- 'Four suspects ran into a 2nd story in a apartment projects - apartment. PHILLIPS: Her 12 tapes would become a racial powder keg. He told us what he observed and what he had been hearing about the men against women and the WAF, the White Angle Faction police. There must be some evidence in the record from which counsel might argue, however reasonably or unreasonably, that Fuhrman moved a glove from the Bundy crime scene to the defendant's Rockingham residence for the purpose of placing blame for two brutal and savage murders upon the defendant. So what else was on those tapes? Simpson double-murder trial, recently retired Los Angeles Police Detective Mark Fuhrman said he and other officers I don't know who called. Ito steps aside on Fuhrman tapes issue. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He would have been happy because he could have allowed me to get hurt and that would be right up his alley. - Describing suspect, 'Commander Hickman, was a dickhead. Mark Fuhrmaans Testimony Transcript - DocsLib UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When you're watching the trial and you see this and you know what you've got on those tapes, what were you thinking?
