But as long as you move on and treat the thoughts with indifference, everything will be ok.. You are beloved by God, and no thought that pops into your mind will ever be powerful enough to reverse His love for you. What if these thoughts end up becoming intentional? I know that I believe what the Bible says is true. I pray for you to know that God is not mad at you, He wants you to trust Him to take it all. I want to believe it because I want to be saved. Thats a fear of mine. Remember, the doubting guy who said, Lord, I believe help my unbelief! He was trying to believe, and Jesus didnt bash him over the head with a threat of the unpardonable sin. Oh my I have sm typos the gots I meant god , but I'm sacred my heart has been hardened the only thing that keeps me going is I believe the one who started good work will bring it to completion", I dont want to be lead astray! A common phenomenon experienced alongside scrupulositys blasphemous thoughts is a feeling of numbness. I constantly feel like I have to work to keep my salvation. Mocking our intrusive thoughts can sometimes deliver such a powerful blow that the thoughts go away almost immediately but like all techniques, it has its limitations and may not be appropriate for every single blasphemous thought. Heres the thing from the moment we are born, we start swallowing information from the world around us. Be still and know that I am God Psalm 46:10. I feel like the thoughts arent mine because I love god and Jesus. What I have observed is that people who have religious OCD fall into one of two categories (or sometimes flip flop between both) either the engaged obsessive or the avoidant obsessive. After my first night going to church for myself and meeting people there, I came home and read about the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Having unwanted, blasphemous thoughts is a terrifying experience, but its quite common to people with religious OCD. Now the second time I felt like I truly blasphemed happened in my bed when I woke up. In Matthew 12 Jesus says that whoever commits the sin of blasphemy will not be forgiven. Do you see yourself as dangerous and somehow more powerful than God? Thank you for this. If you are, I definitely suggest imploring Our Lady's intercession and pray the Rosary it will help with intrusive thoughts and bad thoughts, and strengthen and restore your relationship with God 100%! Well, if youll excuse me, dear brain, I really dont have time to chat, because I have so much havoc and destruction on my to-do list for today. What did they do? After doing this over and over again, she no longer feels very bad when she declares that Chemosh is nothing more than a stone idol. But it was in that moment that God hid him in the mountain and actually showed Himself to Elijah in the still small voice!! (Not Jesus) instead of saying I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. "The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a willful, determined opposition to the present power of the Holy Spirit." One more text, Luke 12:10: "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." That verse, as well as Hebrews 10:26 and Hebrews 6:4-6 always scared me because of the things i said and did. Thank you for your article, it helped me see that we are all in the same boat and we must encourage one another. Well it started rearing its ugly head again and I ran across this article. Therefore, it may not always be easy for you to know that you didnt mean the thoughts. The universalist sites held no assurance for me anymore. When you gave your life to Christ, God gave you the Holy Spirit to live and dwell in your heart. I dont want to commit the unforgivable sin. The answer to intensity is not more intensity. You are definitely in the right place. By doing this they were blaspheming the Holy Spirit. And He loves you through the fog of mental health. No I need to know whether Ive even recognised the holy Spirit, and if its not him then I can ignore more easily. I already worry it will happen When I get ready to read the word. We all want to think of God without conflicting thoughts. I dont know how youll do that, Lord, but Im going to just keep coming to you every day and bringing you my confused feelings for YOU to heal them. I don't know why it happened but it got worse and worse. Whenever I learn something new my mind would just start to attack that person when I didn't want to. This time i feel like i'm drowning.. i feel like i've done something against a loveone that will cause them harm against the lord which i believe i haven't done but i feel like i've done already.. i keep remembering the scenes and my mind tells me i didn't do it but i'm still anxious i must've had..will the loveone of mine still be accepted by the lord or not? I don't know where they came from because it just started some months ago, out of nowhere. I'm not the antichrist! but a definite act showing a state of sin, and that state a willful determined opposition to the present power of the Holy Spirit; and this as shown by its fruit, blasphemy. And its pretty tiring. Growing up on Catholic school (elementary school until high school), we learn to believe in God and his kindness. I see Him as my therapist. Intrusive thoughts (including the blasphemous kind) have four main characteristics. I was still getting this here and there recently, then I was prayed over at church recently and then I ran across this article. All I've wanted to do was love, serve, and walk close with the Lord, as I've seen with others.. but I'm so so so so close to giving up. In another passage, Jesus Christs disciples are told not to suppose evil against the Father (which could be considered thought about God) for their sakes. I was baptized again I cried there too and more often recently. But the thoughts just come and stick. Many religions consider these ideas to be sacrilegious. We can trust Him to judge rightly. As i m feeling numbness with severe depression. Jesus says in the Bible that no one can snatch us from His hand and that The One who has started a good work in us will finish it until the day of Christ Jesus. This can help you differentiate between your own thoughts and the intrusive thoughts of OCD. Even when I felt confused, stressed, and angry, I blamed myself. If you go to Jesus , He will NEVER reject you! Because i live for Him and for people who love me. First of all you are precious to our Lord and savior. I'm worried, how do I deal with this, and how do I fix it? These are truly sobering words which should not be taken lightly. An intrusive thought is a name for something that happens when you have certain mental health disorders. Where do they fit into the discussion? But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. The litmus test to know if you are a truly reprobate person or merely a scrupulous person is to ask how often you come back to God to seek reconciliation. Seems when I am reading my Bible it pops up in my head, when I am praying it comes up in my head. In the past I was very helped in Facebook groups. Help at an old folks home, or visit people who are in hospice. Hi. I want to be in Heaven with God one day. Most people, if they would have heard the kinds of complaints I made against God, would have thought I was on the brink of atheism. [Mt. I am so glad that GOD is my judge and not myself, because He has a better picture of whats truly going on. What grieves him is bitterness and wrath and anger against other people. When someone has a true revelation of who God is, it becomes very difficult to take his name in vain, because they develop a deep reverence for him. I feel desperate and depressed. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. If youve based your understanding of blasphemous thoughts on only one or two verses, you might be astonished to see the complexity and layers of nuance in the complete picture. Wondering if I found relief, would my faith return or would my doubts take hold and forever damn me. We all have a burden to bearfor some it might be poverty, or blindness, or loneliness. Its a very sweet and supportive group with amazing people who could have written your message for themselves. She got married. I like to summarize these four characteristics with the acronym RUMP. It requires mental assent and suppression of the Holy Spirit. To be shure everything got worse. Our thoughts are futile. We also have a bi-weekly Zoom support group in connection with my Scrupulosity Academy, which is a paid-access membership to access an 8-hour master class, worksheets, and Zoom sessions that meet every Sunday and Wednesday. This well-intentioned fixing takes two main forms. Honeybees teach us that the best response is to be very still and not respond. You can talk to Him about ANYTHING. This time I am going to dig my heels in. I pray strongly everyday 2 to 3 time a day for God to forgive me for my thoughts and dreams. This may happen because the constant struggle against bad thoughts leads to mental and emotional exhaustion. Seeking companionship/love isn't wrong but the way we go about it sometimes is. I have had unwanted blasphemous thoughts against the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, when I love the Lord with all my heart and walk with Him. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". It makes no since because its so against what I want to do. He is not the One condemning you, either. He has you, and he is keeping you for the day of redemption.. Having negative or blasphemous thoughts against God does not always mean there is something wrong with you. Ive been battling this for about a year .. Before I read your article here I was suffering from these intrusive thoughts of cursing the holy spirit and then almost immediately I am rushed with anxiety and fear that I had thought I committed the unpardonable sin while simultaneously fighting and rebuking the thought verbally and within my head. I mess up the words sometimes and then the sentences become things I dont mean. The Father draws them by the work of the Holy Spirit. The fear was debilitating and it was the main reason I fell into a depression. You and your family. Rod. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. I always used to laugh at him when I saw him suited up, but when it came to eating the honey he brought back, I retracted my laughter. of Im terrified and am in desperate need of help. Try going into a vision or picture in your mind the second you know the thought is coming. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Again, don't force the belief, allow God to help you. Do I need to apologise to God and the people who I hurt when I had intrusive thoughts about them? What we find in both categories is surprising! Some may even be employed by a particular ministry or church organization. His words are truth. Can multiple methods be used, for instance Dr Osborne's method and mockery? And now the third time is the one that I struggle with even to this day but Im still fighting. I know that is why my mind completely cleared, because I let it all go and trusted God's word. Matt 12:32 ; Luke 12:10 ), has vexed both scholars and ordinary Christians for . I think there's a reason for that, which is weird. God is leading all of us through a constant process of refinement. And does it indicate something about our spirituality? While we intentionally ignore and refuse to respond to the blasphemous thoughts, there are two tricks that can help you reduce the anxiety. Also is it blasphemy against the Holy Spirit if I said the f word in this sentence: Im making another ******** Christmas card." It is hard for me to share these things, but I really do desire to be set free. Every scrupulous persons biggest fear is, what if that thought was genuinely from me?. Im starting to mess up the words and so then the sentences are becoming things that I dont want. But this doesn't mean that it's okay to insult God and Christ. Typically, these are people who have scrupulosity, also known as religious OCD. Believe and trust in Him. He became skin and bones from trying to apply everything in Scripture to himself. Thus, as with most things in life, we must avoid sinful thoughts, but we should also be careful to avoid the sin of unbelief that ultimately results from sinful thoughts. Its a horrible thought. I want to walk in Gods love for me but this situation has just really been an ongoing issue . Then theyput himin custody,thatthe mind of theLordmight be shown to them. But I know what you mean about feeling like the unwanted thoughts are willful. Intrusive thoughts are highly exaggerated and false, so we respond with even more exaggeration and falsity. The Bible says the truth will set us free. That is why I am here now. Typically, ERP involves exposing yourself to these thoughts and choosing not to resist, avoid, or fight back. i think satan entered meor another demon. Thank you very much for bringing this up! But its also helpful to challenge our deepest presuppositions (the learned aspect of our OCD). I just want God. The results of fighting this demon to the point where death will be the ultimate solution to this ocd. I know that this isnt actually blaspheming the Holy Spirit as it is not a foreign or passive thought, it has to be the most deliberate and clear conscious action. I don't feel repentant so to speak, but I say sorry. Try it, and if it doesnt work so well right now, leave it aside and try again when youve gained some more mental muscle. Its like the minute I understand that sin, my obsession takes hold of it and I get bombarded by awful, unwanted blasphemous thoughts. That every single religious person in the world bases their spiritual experience on faith in unseen realities?, When you have that thought telling you that Chemosh is just a stone idol, what would happen if you respond by saying maybe he is?, I could never do that! Emotional reasoning is a lie that says, because I FEEL it, it must be true.. I feel like Ive gotten very off track. I know exactly what you mean. Wow I feel like a relief man wow thank you very much now I will never let the devil control me again iJN amen. Hi, Rod, I have a video about why we sometimes feel that we have given in to blasphemous thoughts. God has already accepted you these feelings of false guilt are either A) a temptation from Satan to doubt your faith experience, or B) the obsessive thought patterns of religious OCD. They are actions that you feel will cancel out the bad thought?, So lets see if we can go for five minutes without you blowing any air out and without verbalizing that Chemosh is Lordand next time we will try to go for ten minutes. Lets look at how the Holy Spirit works and you will understand why the person who commits this sin can never receive forgiveness. I felt like one thought caused me to lose years of serving God. Many religions consider these ideas to be sacrilegious. As you walk with God, you're going to fall over and over again, but keep getting back up and walk with Him one day at a time. Did we really mean to think that blasphemous thought? Without Faith (not feelings) it's impossible to please God Hebrews 11:6. Im just trying trying to focus on that. The constant feeling like youve done something wrong, God doesnt love you, youve sinned to farthese are not based on evidence, they are based on this nebulous feeling. It has been difficult. As a Christian, there are many sins you may fall victim to, in my opinion this is not one of them. Dear friend, dont give up. For example: Whom have you reproached and blasphemed?Against whom have you raisedyourvoice,And lifted up your eyes on high?Againstthe HolyOneof Israel. The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is committed when a person is so cold-hearted, that they don't see that what they're doing is wrong. It took a lot to not let the enemy seduce me again with more lies. I would ask you: 1. I would advise you to remember that part of the fright and stickiness of these thoughts is biological. Even tho I know God knows all my thoughts, I still feel guilty. Try to implement the strategies in this article, and it will get easier for your over time. May He bless you and give you rich fulfillment. Please pray for me I love the Lord and this has been an frightening experience but it is good to know I am still loved of God. Therefore, any guilty feelings that you have after this point about the past is considered false guilt. Speaking vile words or curses against God is a form of blasphemy. If your results indicated that your blasphemous thoughts are likely caused by moral OCD, this article is for you. I encourage you to let go of everything and everyone that doesn't encourage your faith in Jesus. I would caution you against listening to random individuals who claim to have the gift of prophecy. It comes from the word scruples a strong moral or ethical reservation. I actually have a question. You situation absolutely mirrors mine. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Advertisement". I read about Chemosh in the golden oracles of Moab., But wouldnt you agree that this is belief rather than knowledge? I dont know if I messed up now, I think im so doomed. First, you need not to over analyze the Bible & Christianity. As I write this down I actually have this sense of relief from just writing it and bringing my problems out into the open. I just had a baby and was a little weak! Being tempted does not mean we have sinned. It is in situations like these when your brain seems to say something that frightens you when you need to not fight against it, but rather lean into the Biblical truth that your prayers and spiritual affirmations are not what saves you. The people were just as human and unperfect as us but God still restored them and used them in a mighty way. Theres a reason we are told to keep fighting the good fight of faith. Afterwards, my head will feel tight after what seems like forever to fight these thoughts. Then few weeks after that, i have another scrupulousity strike (this time it was to sell my soul to the devil), then it is solved again by repeating some mantras again. Unfortunately I dont know any mental health providers in New York that specialize in scrupulosity, although Im sure there are some. These thoughts are often about a persons worries and fears, such as fear of spiders or being sexually assaulted. This power would exalt himself as God and blaspheme His name to the point of getting everyone who is not saved to worship himself. But again, remember that we are speaking of purposeful and willful blasphemy. I want to go back to the old me, I want to feel the presence of Lord again, I just can't and don't know if Lord will forgive me. I hope you don't mind me replying to your comment. But what does it mean to blaspheme the Spirit? a few months later my baptism certificate fell off the wall. I dont want to reject Him or always be in a place where Im questioning Him. 4. You are so precious to HIM. Start and finish a masturbation/porn without a single unwanted intrusive thought, or bad thought. Youd shut down and go apathetic even if you were dealing with intense, repetitive, inescapable intrusive thoughts about pink bunnies. Tell yourself, this is not me, its my OCD. Now I picture the thought looking at me from a dark forest while I eat and laugh with the Holy Spirit in His Light and I respond back with mockery saying yes that and I will have the most beautiful intimacy and be the Bride of Christ. I want God to love me. Because I feel stupid, it must mean that it would be a waste of time to try out for the math team. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. I have had trouble with sleeping, I had headaches, neckpains, panic attacks, knee pains, restlessness. How Are Virgo And Gemini Compatible In Bed? You said that Christianity doesnt have the 100 percent truth. Thank you, Di! God Bless You! The unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an act of resistance which belittles the Holy Spirit so grievously that he withdraws forever with his convicting power so that we are never able to repent and be forgiven. I felt like I willfully did this so I got so depressed that I kept having bad thoughts against the Holy Spirit that one carried no feelings of anxiety with it until the thought had ended and then I kept having them and it felt like I truly WILLFULLY chose them but then again I look back and I see that I was breathing heavily, was over analyzing everything, had a resistance to the thought and did not agree and to this day Im still ruminating over whether I truly said a blasphemy or not. Any any that is related to emotions, self-esteem, insomnia, anger, relationship dynamics due to mental health and recovery and other issues that don't fit better in another forum would be examples of topics that might go there. That is why I go to God in prayer so often. I know I have been diagnosed with religious OCD. If you reject the Son of Man out of some misunderstanding, the Holy Spirit can forgive you, but when you reject the Holy Spirit, youre sawing off the branch on which youre sitting, severing by your own perversity all connection with the One who forgives.. If anyone helped him, he rewarded them. When we are tempted, we feel dirty and guilty. It probably has something to do with new layers of thoughts and views of self that are introduced at that time. The first time this happened to me was when I was only 17 years old.I was a devoted Christian my whole life and truly valued my relationship with the Lord.When this intrusive thoughts happened I had no idea where it was coming from,it had just started happening before an extremely important exam.I was in a constant battle against my thoughts.And my anxiety and fear just got worse by the day.It lasted at a point where I became emotional exhausted that I could not even get out of bed for my exam.It was the worst fear ever,because I thought that Jesus has left me,even though in my deepest midst I know this isnt true,because He said never will I leave you,nor forsake you.I had no one to tell or talked to because I felt so ashamed and discusted with myself.All I could do was cry,sleep and cry out to the Lord for help ! They must look out for themselves. You say YOUR thoughts are more powerful than other people? When Bartimaus came, it was for physical healing. Doubting is so much a part of OCD that it has been called the doubting disease. In fact, theres a book specifically about scrupulosity that is titled The Doubting Disease, but you might pick up more obsessions by reading through it and hearing about what other people obsess over. But it leads us to a question: what is respect?

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